REBUILD THE COMMACK ROAD BRIDGE
WELCOME to The Bridge Site! Our goal is to build a regional bike and pedestrian trail network on LI, and
to preserve forests, open space, existing infrastructure and historic sites along the proposed routes. We hope to improve
the planning process so the costs of these improvements can be lowered. The proposed network could connect our parks,
beaches, preserves, communities, employment centers and other public spaces so that Long Islanders can enjoy the outdoors
without being forced to use cars or
compete with traffic and fumes. This site now focuses on rebuilding the footbridge over Commack Road about 1 mile south of the
LIE, and developing a trail running east and west of the area. We also would like to collect ANY historic data about this
forgotton structure, if you have any photos of when it was in use that would be wonderful! Apparently it was only used for a few years
as a service road to access some long gone Pilgrim farmland west of Commack road, and was closed off by 1960.
Suffolk County has begun work on an improvement for Commack Road, funded with federal stimulus money, south of the Pilgrim
Psychiatric Center entrance that has eliminated the old bridge. While other parts of the USA are building massive bike and
pedstrian facilities, we have made little progress.
THE BRIDGE IS GONE! WE LOST THE BATTLE! In late June 2009 the DPW finally prevailed and took down the old bridge. But all is not lost!
We are still being promised that it will be replaced once the road below is rebuilt sometime in 2010. We will not relent until it is
rebuilt. Sadly, we have lost the last surface structure of the former Edgewood hospital complex, which itself is still
missed by many of us. Just as we still expect to see the towering building 102 looming on the horizon when we get near Deer Park,
we always expect to see the bridge as we drive down Commack... and it looks weird without it being there. We thought we had it saved and
will now have to fight to get a new one constructed at the same location, one that is higher above the road and has abutments
spaced far enough apart to support a wider road underneath. We had successfully applied for TEP funding to fix the old bridge at a
cost of only $100,000, which hopefully can still be used to build a trail along the east side of Commack road heading north from the new bridge,
to the north end of Old Commack Road or maybe even the Pilgrim entrance road.
The county has provided some funds in the 2010 capital budget
for a replacement bridge. We fully expect this will become not only reality, but the new bridge could also become the pilot
project, the model of efficiency that can then be emulated wherever we need to cross a major busy road or highway along the
LI Motor Parkway trail network. This trail section was one that many people already use today, and could have thousands of
daily users once the trail
would be built to Nassau. That trail is still alive and progressing nicely... in Nassau County... Bikes and pedestrians
are still often thought of as pesky nuisances here. We want to see the regional trail, Corridor 16, get built in our
lifetime. Removing the bridge could still be a MAJOR setback if the new one get delayed indefintely or the remaining
3.5 years for the TEP funds run out. We would like to also like to you know that Legislators Stern and D'Amaro have been
so helpful and continue to work with us on a real solution. We hope the county executive realizes that bicycles and
pedestrians belong too. I am investigating the existing money we have for bike trails and trying to get some of it dedicated to the
Western suffolk portion of the DOT corridor 16 project. I'll also post some demolition photos here soon.
There HAD been some good news about the bridge for quite some time. Suffolk County sent an engineer to inspect
it and it was indeed STRUCTURALLY SOUND! This alone however meant nothing much in our efforts to preserve it. Legislator
Steven Stern has helped guide us through the TEP program application and pushed for county approval. His efforts have led
to success... the funding was approved and the project. But SCDPW was NOT with us on this goal for technical reasons.
We also have the support of Heartland for this and the regional trail concept. Heartland has told us they will not seek
access to Commack road and we would like to thank them for their support and concern. The regional trail (and possibly the
preserve itself) may be doomed if we do not replace the bridge! We must keep the project moving forward!
                                     
                                      
                                       
February 11, 2006 hike Photo by Sid Cherry
We still think the bridge could somehow have been
SAVED since we have TEP funds to improve the bridge and put up safety fencing along the edges.
The county revived plans to improve and widen the overall road area due to the Tanger Mall, and there is still no guarantee
the trail will be built. The Suffolk County Department of Public Works completed an inspection to determine the structural
conditions and found it to be in reasonably good condition. They will have the funds in 2010 to begin work on a
replacement. They have been great to work with and we hope to continue the dialogue.
We would like to move ahead with looking at various backup funding sources for this vital project.
                                   
                                      
                  Hiking over the Bridge in June 2004
Other trails or bike lanes intersecting with the old bridge could be added later as part of road improvement projects,
and enhance the area by providing a safe
crossing alternative for bicyclists, walkers, and runners to use the excellent facilities at the Edgewood preserve
without using a motor vehicle to get there. Reusing the existing Old Commack Road within the preserve as part of a trail
system is possible since we already have had the potholes repaired... A BIG thanks to Babylon, Huntington, and DEC!),
and most of the old concrete road surface is in excellent condition. Another asphalt road leads to the proposed Pilgrim
redevelopment, about half of it has already been repaved east of the new power plants.
Since Huntington has proposed a large truck ban on Commack road, it would improve the local area's rideability and
walkability. Also, the proposed bike lanes and trails might encourage people to ride bicycles to the overcrowded LIRR
station instead of taking cars. Secure bike lockers could provided at the station.
                      The northbound view from the bridge deck
The old bridge
had great potential for re-use as a safe crossing point on Commack Road (CR4). This structure has been abandoned for over
40 years.
but remained in relatively good condition. It used to connect a series of trails that allowed people to hike or mountain bike through at least 6 miles of interconnected trails and more are possible. Removal of this bridge will disconnect
this vital recreational resource from the community and almost require a car to access the Edgewood preserve, since it
is difficult to cross the heavily traveled Commack road during normal hours. You can walk from Otsego park to this bridge
(up until June 13th 2009) and safely cross the road into the preserve, and the Verizon phone line has been raised to make
way for demo equipment
We have studied the corridor in great detail and have found a way to connect the trail over a new bridge to the proposed LI
Motor Parkway Historic recreational trail proposed for Nassau County. The original alignment of the old parkway ran from
Queens, through central Nassau, and crossed into Suffolk in the Melville area. Much of the original corridor still exists,
and a link to this corridor along the LIPA lines that run just west of Carl's Path in Dix Hills is part of the revised
plan. The initial trail project (NYDOT off-road corridor 16) is supported by the Motor Parkway Panel and LIGHT
(Long Island Greenways and Healthy Trails.) For more details on the LI Motor Parkway, click on the links below!
This trail system could also eventually be connected to a proposed trail that would start at the Pilgrim/Heartland complex
and continue along the Sunken Meadow parkway into the park, enabling anyone to ride from Deer Park, Dix Hills, and the
adjacent areas up to the north shore.
Additional paths to the south shore, where the 13 mile Ocean parkway bikepath construction is now supposed to begin in 2011,
are also desirable and feasible. As part of the LIGHT project #1 it could head west
following the LIPA right of way and connect to the proposed Motor Parkway trail as well. In fact LIGHT held a ride
last year and proved it already possible to ride most of this route, although it is not safe or recommended due to the fact
you are trespassing and several really steep and treacherous hills exist in a few areas. If people write or speak to
their county, state and local officials, we WILL make it happen!
                                   
                                      
                 
Sufficient clearance for all trucks
Unfortunately, Suffolk County HAS torn down the bridge, considering it to be a hazard to
high and wide trucks, even though it appears to meet all the height requirements . Hundreds of trucks used to pass safely
underneath it daily without incident.
It cost about $150,000 to tear down this historic structure that was built during WWII (1941) for purposes long
forgotton. The cost of repair would likely have been about $80,000, including repairing chipped concrete and rebar, installing
safety fencing, and painting over grafitti. We urge everyone to get in touch with us and get involved in efforts to replace
this bridge as soon as possible, and help plan the the trails and bikepaths that will enhance the area instead of bringing
in more traffic.
We also support preservation of any available lands adjacent to the Edgewood preserve. Much development is proposed
for the area, so working with the local officials and the developers we hope to ensure that sufficient open space is
protected and enjoyable facilities for walkers, bikers, hikers and bladers are part of the plans.
Up to 9,000 apartments and a 15 to 18 story office tower are planned for part of the the former Pilgrim site, but the
good news is that none of this traffic will be using Commack road as part of the current plans. Several structures, such
as the ornate water tower, powerhouse and old doctors residences will be retained. Pilgrim will continue to operate into
the forseeable future.
                                     
                                       
              Hiking nearby on 1.6 mile Old Commack Road
The new LI aquarium is also being planned on part of the former Pilgrim site. It would be nice if local residents had
a safe bike and pedestrian access route to this and other new recreational attractions, instead of being forced into their
vehicles for the short ride to this complex. A comprehensive bike plan for western Suffolk should be created, and reconstruction of
this bridge will mean there is a safe place for children, as well as adults, to cross the dangerous Commack road below.
We have discussed the bridge and trail network with many local leaders and the owners of Heartland. All have agreed this
is a good idea and could help to get people out of cars and onto trails, helping to clear the air and improve eveyone's
health. Linking to the abandoned sections of the Motor Parkway is just the beginning: we hope to convince planners that
a reconstruction of the Sagtikos should include a bike trail to the south shore... if this is done concurrently with road
reconstruction the costs will be minimal.
We could EASILY get a loop recreational trail that could take you to Robert Moses Beach, Cedar Beach, Gilgo, Tobay, and
Jones Beach Before you head up the Wantagh Parkway and pick up the old Motor Parkway and head back to Edgewood.A list of
legislative E-mail contacts has been added to the bottom of the web page. Please write or e-mail these and other officials
to show your support! We WILL need your help!
               
                                     
                          Crossing the Bridge
     
           
Use or reuse of facilities such as abandoned roads and railroad rights of way, old bridges, utility routes, parks,
undeveloped lands, abandoned parcels set aside for unbuilt roads, etc need to be considered. Future developments can be
required to set aside greenspaces to eventually be linked together.
Transportation and recreational facilities should be fun to use, safe, encourage participation of more people of all ages,
and be a useful alternative to competing with automobile traffic on existing roads. Please feel free to contact me with
any questions at denisbyrne@yahoo.com or write to your county legislator about
it if possible,
                                     
                                       
                                  You CAN get there
from HERE!
We can improve LI by creating a network of recreational trails for bicycles, walkers, joggers,
rollerbladers, and any other non-motorized transportation you can think of. Please consider supporting these goals so we
can avoid getting in the car just to travel a mile to the local park or strip mall. These projects include creating such
trails from Belmont Lake to Babylon Village, a 13 mile trail along Ocean Parkway from Jones Beach to Captree
and eventuallly Robert Moses Beach, another connecting Otsego to Edgewood Preserve via the old bridge on Commack
and over to the Sunken Meadow parkway greenbelt up to the beach,
an extension of the Bethpage parkway bike path to Syosset, another 13 mile route along the abandoned LIRR Wading River
branch, and restoring the remaining abandoned sections of the LI Motor parkway, (AKA Vanderbilt parkway) as a recreational
path running from Western Suffolk to Queens, where the bike path already exists. It's hard to get people motivated to
support these projects, and there is always one local resident who fights against because of misinformation they may have
heard about an increase in crime that will come with the "outsiders" coming through. However, in other areas where such
trails have been built, home values INCREASED and crime decreased, it actually improved the quality of life in the area
and created a park like atmosphere in these areas where it was safe for local children to play away from motor vehicles.
It is much more relaxing and fun when you can go out for a ride or walk and not have to deal with traffic clogged roads,
diesel fumes, inconsiderate motorists and dangerous conditions. The "Ribbon Park" open space concept is one whose time
has come. Please support these plans by copying the listed proposals or submitting your own ideas via e-mail, and speaking
in favor of them whenever possible. Anyone interested in supporting any of the bikepath projects should visit the
The LI Motorparkway site ,
The Rail-Trail site,
and The Edgewood Preserve site
for more info and let the DOT and local leaders know of your support!
The LIRR Rail-Trail site
LI Environment site
The LI Motorparkway site
The Edgewood Preserve site
The Bridge trail map
Hike-LI.com- LI Hiking info
CLIMB mountain biking
Motorparkway.net
NYRides Bike Trail Info
pedalpushersonline.com story
e-mail denisbyrne@yahoo.com
The Bridge as seen from the trail
                                     
   

The Long Island we once knew has become densely developed.
Somehow, perhaps through a combination of good luck, a lack of early planning, several failed projects such as Multi-Town,
and the environmental vision of NYS Senator Johnson and the Pine Barrens society, at least 850 acres of preserved wooded
land remains at the Edgewood preserve.
This is the last significant remnant of this ecosystem on Long Island. There is a 3 mile official hiking trail on the land,
as well as at least 6 miles of marked mountain biking trails and more old fire roads. Also running north and south is the
1.6 mile concrete Old Commack Road, which is in good condition.
Key among those trails is one that starts at "Old Commack Road" which is now the concrete bikepath, and heads west
over the old bridge, eventually connecting to trails inside Huntington town's Otsego park. These trails heading west are
known as NYDOT Corridor 16 and would lead all the way to Jones Beach among other destinations. To the east of the
Edgewood preserve, another possible trail could follow the
Sagtikos parkway and Robert Moses Causeway to the south shore, or all the way north to Sunken Meadow State park.
SAVE THE OLD BRIDGE
WRITE TO YOUR STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS!
MAKE LI A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE
This page, the LI Motor parkway page, the LIRR rail trail page, the Edgewood page, the recent photos pages, are hosted by
Denis Byrne.
Thanks to all of you who have responded to the site and all of your constructive comments! Let's save the bridge and save
our tax money for other needs!
THANK YOU VISITING, HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT AND DO RETURN!
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SINCERELY,
DENIS BYRNE
site last updated on May 6, 2010
We are formed a group to improve the preserve and surrounding areas under the NYDEC "Adopt a Natural Resource" program.
If you are even remotely interested please get in touch with me soon.
Some of the ideas regarding the preserve and surroundings that we are working on and need your support!
Copy and send the ones that you would like to support and paste them into your e-mail, along with your name, address if possible, and e-mail address
1)SAVE the HISTORIC PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE on Commack road as part of the extended LI MOTOR PARKWAY TRAIL
2)Build RECREATIONAL PATHS along "new" COMMACK ROAD
3)Convert OLD COMMACK ROAD into a bike path by simply patching the potholes(DONE!) and adding signs
4)SAVE Other OPEN SPACE near the EDGEWOOD PRESERVE
5)DO NOT widen Commack road
6)Consider eventually making EDGEWOOD a STATE PARK preserve like Connetquot
7)Secure the PRESERVE borders to eliminate dumping and illegal uses such as ATV's
8)build more MOUNTAIN BIKING trails
9)build more PAVED recreational paths
10)build more HIKING trails
11)Build the SUNKEN MEADOW to ROBERT MOSES RECREATIONAL TRAIL
12)save more open space on LI
13)plant more NATIVE landscaping and REMOVE INVASIVES
14)convert more LIPA utility easements into bikepaths/trails
15)STOP the HUGE NYS INTERMODAL FREIGHT YARD (TRIM) from being built at the PRESERVE BORDERS!
16)IMPROVE THE PARKING AREA and SIGNAGE
MOST IMPORTANT:ADD YOUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS TO YOUR MESSAGE!
Send all messages, ideas, historic facts and photos to: denisbyrne@yahoo.comor
dbyrn@suffolk.lib.ny.us
To e-mail me use: denisbyrne@yahoo.com
NEW! This list was added in 2002 so you can send an e-mail or write a letter to your legislator and other
officials. Please take a moment to send a short note supporting this project!
If it is at all possible, please write a formal letter or call the offices of the officials and let them know of your
support. Many recieve hundreds of e-mails daily and they can be overlooked. Thanks!
NY State Senator Owen Johnson
23-24 Argyle Square
Babylon NY 11702
631-669-9200
OJohnson@senate.state.ny.us
Babylon Town Supervisor Steve Bellone
sbellone@townof babylon.com
200 East Sunrise Highway
Lindenhurst, NY 11757
631-957-3000
Huntington Town Supervisor Frank Petrone
fpetrone@town.huntington.ny.us
100 Main Street
Huntington NY 11743
631-351-3030
Legislator Steven Stern
1789 E. Jericho Tpk.
Huntington Station NY 11743
631-854-5100
Steven.Stern@suffolkcountyny.gov
Legislator Lou D'Amaro
1996 Deer Park Ave.
Deer Park NY 11729
631-854-1900
lou.damaro@suffolkcountyny.gov
County Executive Steve Levy
PO Box 6100
H. Lee Dennison Bldg
100 Veterans Memorial Highway
Hauppauge NY 11788
631-853-4000
Suffolk County Dept. of Public Works
335 Yaphank Avenue
Yaphank, NY 11980
(631) 852-4010 FAX (631) 852-4165
Chief Engineer William Hillman
Bridges and Waterways: Tom Rodgers
Engineer Mitch Crowley
Commissioner Gilbert Anderson, P.E.
Lee Kiernan
NY Bureau of Land Management
518-474-2195 Bridge issues and land use issues
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